That’s Incredible! A Former Player That Isn’t A Fan of Brett Favre’s

May 27, 2009 – 6:15 am by Lance Zimmerman

(Editor’s note:  I had to change the title.  Although only people older than 33 will understand it.)

Very rarely will a Hall of Fame player speak with such disdain about another soon-to-be Hall of Famer, especially one who plays the same position. Fran Tarkenton has put it on the record that he wouldn’t be pleased with the Vikings adding Brett Favre to the fold for the 2009 season. Tarkenton might be put off by Favre being one of the greatest Green Bay Packers of all time, a hated rival of the Vikings, but he speaks in such terms that you would have to think it goes far beyond that.

Whether or not Favre decides to suit up for another season rests solely on his right shoulder. That’s at least what current Vikings Coach Brad Childress would have you believe. Tarkenton feels the Vikings would be wise to stay away from Favre and go into the season with unproven QB’s Tavaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels.

Fran Tarkenton joined 790 the Zone in Atlantaon Tuesday to discuss the Brett Favre saga that has dominated the media two off-seasons in a row now.

Fran was asked about the whole Brett Favre retirement, un-retirement:

“I think it’s despicable. What he put the Packers through last year was not good. Here’s an organization that was loyal to him for 17, 18 years, provided stability of organization, provided players. It just wasn’t about Brett Favre. In this day and time, we have glorified the Brett Favre’s of the world so much, they think it’s about them. He goes to New York and bombs. He’s 39 years old. How would you like Ray Nitschke in his last year (playing for) the Vikings, or I retire, and go play for the Packers. I kind of hope it happens, so he can fail.”

On what more he feels the Packers could have done as an organization during the break-up with Favre:

“They did everything, but you get into a position, and I understand he’s been glorified so much. He’s been a great player, there’s no question about it, but it’s all about him. It is supposed to be all about your team. If you’re going to be the quarterback of your team, you need to be there in the off season workouts in March and April. Peyton Manning’s there. Tom Brady’s there.”

Fran’s take on what he sees out of Favre’s quarterback abilities or lack there of:

“I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I’ve ever seen. Look at his final game in a Packers uniform. He blew that game against the Giants. He’s playing against Eli Manning, I love Eli Manning, but he’s still not a great quarterback. He’s not Peyton yet, or Tom Brady. He’s just a guy. And they’re (Packers) are playing at home, and they’re in a tight situation, they went to overtime and he (Favre) throws the interception that allows them (the Giants) to come back and win the game. He has done that and driven his coaches crazy all of his career.”

Listen to Fran Tarkenton on 790 the Zone in Atlanta with Mayhem in the AM

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  1. 73 Responses to “That’s Incredible! A Former Player That Isn’t A Fan of Brett Favre’s”

  2. @ Big Jonny –

    Ha LOL – back to your insults, name calling!

    You are a very funny guy. It makes me laugh!

    Again, the wiki quote

    Fran Tarkenton – had 1 TD and 6 INT in 3 SBs. How is the wiki quote off base.

    And I clearly stated that yes it is hard to compare guys from different eras, let alone from teams from the same time.

    Obviously, you didn’t watch the jets too much. You mention the first game against the Pats, but do you realize how much that as on the coaching. How ’bout running it four straight times from the goal line and not making it – plus they were in an all out run formation. I mean you have Brett Favre and don’t even make the attempt to pass? That of course all changed the second time around. Favre threw the TD right at the end of the 4th and then again the OT.

    And you mention during the Tarkenton era offenses weren’t as pass happy, maybe if they had a guy of Favre’s caliber they would have changed earlier.

    And again, you clearly did not show Favre is a below average qb.

    A guy that has any many records and not just longevity records could not be average.

    Again, Favre still threw for more than 20,000 yards than Fran.

    Favre still won more games than Fran Tarkenton.

    Favre still won a SB, which Fran Tarkenton did not ever win.

    And Favre still has a better TD to INT ratio than Fran Tarkenton.

    And Favre is/was a much more accurate passer than Fran Tarkenton.

    Favre has or tied the record for consecutive completions, longest TD pass, etc.

    By D on May 29, 2009

  3. Also, I can’t take credit for this quote, but it made me laugh…

    “What a moron you (Fran Tarkenton) commit fraud on fellow players and fans then run south with all the money. Why don’t you go on the air and explain why you stole money you choking pig.

    By D on May 29, 2009

  4. Yes, again w/ the namecalling, because you don’t deserve to be treated intelligently you piece of shit. You wanna debate this civilized like, i invite you FanNation (you can get there thru they have something called a ThrowDown where 2 people present their cases and others vote who’s right.

    How many times do you keep comparing Farve to Tarkenton? I TOLD YOU, THEY PLAYED IN DIFFERENT ERAS. The game was played differently. Farve’s INT rate is WORSE than every HOF QB of the last 30 yrs. WORSE. Tarkenton’s INT rate was BETTER THAN EVERYONE IN HIS ERA.

    If Tark had thrown 9280 attempts like Farve, he would have thrown for 2,617 MORE YARDS THAN FARVE. So shut the fuck up already about Farve’s ydg, it is a function of throwing the ball more.

    You compare records, which again, IS A TEAM STAT and WORTHLESS FOR COMPARISON. Tark played on an EXPANSION TEAM. The Vikings were born in 1960, and Tark played 10 games as a rookie in 1961, THEIR SECOND YR OF EXISTENCE. And they didn’t have free agency. The only free agents were guys past their prime (think Unitas going to San Diego) or young guys who couldn’t play and got released. It took time to build a competitive team, much longer than it does now. And yet, the Vikings were in the SB in 1969 after only 8 yrs in the league.

    They didn’t have a veteran laden team w/ a Def MVP when he took over. Plus, he’s already played more games than anyone EVER AT QB. He ought to have the record for wins, EVEN THOUGH ITS A BULLSHIT RECORD.

    SB win, who did Brett beat? The Patriots, who were a Wild Card team, had to win 3 road playoff games just to get to the SB, were tired, and their coach, Bill Parcells was negotiating w/ the JETs DURING SB WEEK!!! Distraction?!?! Ya think!?!

    Tark lost to the Dolphins, just before their undefeated season, the Steelers who won quite a few SBs, and the Raiders, who would have had a lot more SB appearances if not for always losing to the Steelers (Immaculate Reception – ever hear of it, that was vs OAK in the AFC title game) 3 Immortal teams, the Patriots were an average team that just got hot and was lucky to even be there.

    Accuracy? 4% difference in accuracy? Again, comparing eras, Tark was the most accurate passer of his era, Farve’s stats are padded by all the slants and screens they ran in GB.

    Longest TD pass is a joke, what are you reading a media guide? Its a fluke. At least a dozen guys have thrown a 99 ydr. And in Brett’s case it was a 5 yd slant, taken for 99 yds BY THE WR, but again, you give all the credit to Brett. But the guy running 90+ yds gets nothing.

    You’rea fucking moron, and you deserve to be called such, cuz you’ve trotted out the same BS stats in 3 straight posts, and i’ve refuted them all.

    By Big Jonny on May 29, 2009

  5. Look, you think just by getting the last word in you win, fine, you can have the last word.

    But remember when comparing Comp % across eras.

    For the 60s and most of the 70s (all but maybe 2 yrs of Tark’s career) there was no 5 yard rule on hitting receivers. Defenders could do whatever they wanted to stop a receiver, all the way down the field. It made it a lot harder for a receiver to get open.

    THEREFORE, everyone’s completion percentage was lower during Tark’s time. THAT DOESN’T MEAN FARVE IS BETTER.

    Farve’s Comp % is BELOW Young and Montana, who ran the same offense as Farve, w/ the same rules governing receiver contact.

    My last word, THIS SHOULDN’T EVEN BE A COMPARISION BETWEEN THESE TWO. Tarkenton’s comments were about Farve’s lack of commitment to the team. All Brett wants is to come back and play games on Sundays, but he’s not willing to put in the work necessary for the team to succeed, Brett just wants to keep playing FOR HIMSELF.

    Oh yeah, and you’re a fucking idiot.

    By Big Jonny on May 29, 2009

  6. @ Big Jonny –

    LOL – can’t defend yourself – so just name call.

    Actually, I stopped bothering trying to read your nonsensical rants.

    Every time I have proved you are wrong and instead of defending your point you just name call. LOL.

    Again, if you want to frame it as Favre as a team player.

    You do know it was the Packers who traded him.

    Ted Thompson was the one who gave up on him.

    The packers were 13-3 with Favre
    the packers were 6-10 sans Favre

    The packers were a better team with Favre and the Jets were a better team with Favre. If Favre goes to the Vikings, the Vikings will be a better team because of Favre.
    Again, Favre still threw for more than 20,000 yards than Fran.

    Favre still won more games than Fran Tarkenton.

    Favre still won a SB, which Fran Tarkenton did not ever win.

    And Favre still has a better TD to INT ratio than Fran Tarkenton.

    And Favre is/was a much more accurate passer than Fran Tarkenton.

    Favre has or tied the record for consecutive completions, longest TD pass, etc.

    Anyway, you make me laugh..

    C’mom call me some more names! LOL

    By D on May 29, 2009

  7. You know for everyone bashing Favre, I got news for you, he doesn’t care. Just like Jerry Rice didn’t care that people thought he was selfish and played too long and Michael Jordan who could care less about what people thought about his gambling and unretirments. Favre has won more games then anyone, and he was the main reason Reggie White came to town, and inturn brought free agents of his own. My God so the man thinks a liitle of him self to think that the team he lead to a NFC Champ game the year before might welcome him back! My what a jerk he is for thinking that. He’s not like T.O. and other super stars who say loud obnoxius comments to the media, the man just wants to play football. And the fact that Tarkenton thinks that Favre would fail is laughable, If Favre didnt have an arm injury last year that Jets would have done better. So in turn, Fran can go shut his face and go back to people not knowing who he is.

    By Blaine on May 30, 2009

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